I believe in ‘god’ and a ‘soul’ but not in the method many do. It’s more obscure and those terms ‘god’ and ‘soul’ are used in a very different way.
I was obsessed with trying to understand religion when I was a teenager. I read the entire bible; I asked every question I could think. When the Sisters and Father could no longer find answers for the questions, they told me I needed ‘faith’. That sounded like a bullshit answer to me, so I decided I’d expand my view. I studied Hinduism in college. It was still just another way for people to unite under a single collective, the theory on stages of life seemed to hold a decent thread of wisdom, much the way Christianity does. However, only the ‘collective’, appears as the common thread across all religions. And the common thread of the ‘collective’, when appropriately controlled presents in true form as power.
That was when it hit… Jesus never wrote a single word. Those who needed a way to take power, namely a King to control his people, wrote the entire bible, picking and choosing passages, editing as he chose. That is what has occurred throughout history, through every religion created. From Egypt to Islam, the weak need someone to look up to, they need the belief that something greater than themselves exists. Only because they lack the courage and strength to stand up and be that ‘God’ themselves. Meanwhile, the strong strive to be ‘God’, looking endlessly for additional power and control, so they create a term, a method, a story to persuade and control the weak.
Science has told us that we are all tiny little bundles of universal matter and energy walking around. These little bundles that we carry around are what we have termed ‘souls’. One day we die, and then all our ‘energy and matter’ is delivered back to the Universe. The Universe is the ‘Collective’; the universe is ‘God’. ‘God’ does not exist he is simply a term for a human ideal to control the Universe, to control destiny, to control everything.
Think about the simple act of eating. By consuming a smaller plant or animal you add to your level of energy. When you’re young, eating delivers growth spurts and additional mass to your control. You eat and your little ball of the universe grows in size.
What then do you do if you are strong? What do you want? Immortality and power… the ‘Universe’ is so large, each individual little ball could never achieve the lasting effect alone. But, if everyone else is a little piece of the Universe, another little bundle of energy and matter, I can attain more power through control. Two is better than one, three better than two, one hundred better than ten, ten thousand better than ten hundred. Then what do you have? An army! Of which you are King, a massive gathering of energy that you can mold and maneuver in order to execute your will and drive against the chaos and chance of the ‘Universe’.
How do you get enough little balls of energy and mass under your control? If you tell them you want to make yourself immortal, if you tell them you want to be ‘All’ powerful, they will hate you and struggle against you. Weave a tale, specifically one of followers achieving immortality. Tell them you can give them what you seek. Provide them a delusion of grandeur, a place where 40 virgins await them upon death, a long rope to a bed of clouds where they never hunger or pain, where they will no longer need struggle but all will be given them and endless euphoria and happiness will be theirs. And to get to ‘heaven’, all you must do is follow and obey. The pen is mightier than the sword, only when used to spin the perfect tale, write the correct verse and you will not need a sword for there will be ten thousand swords held by sturdy men who have vowed follow you to the grave, those men will stand between you and your enemies.
These strong men have created our religions, our countries, our businesses and our wars from the beginning of human history. You recognize them even today as Fathers, Cardinals, Kings, Presidents, Leaders, CEOs and Tyrants. They hold the world’s power and wealth; they can move entire armies with the quietest command.
Still they have not accomplished what they and their forefathers have sought since the dawn of man. One day the leaders will die, their ball of energy delivered back to the chaotic winds of the universe. One day generations later they will be forgotten and their pyramids will crumble. Thus, the search for fathomless universal control and power continues tirelessly toward the goal of omnipresent immortality. In this Quest, Religion remains as the most powerful tool in the arsenal to date.
Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Monday, March 12, 2007
Capitalism, The Road to Socialism
Chavez like most politicians has his mouth 2 miles ahead of his reality. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6438753.stm
Here's an economics lesson. A little 101 for the leftist leader.
Capitalism is the only road that will not implode. And better yet that road does not lead to hell, - it leads to socialism. It exists to serve others, because only by serving others does it serve itself.
Survival of the Fittest is inherent in nature. As such, its byproduct Greed is unavoidable. Not only is it unavoidable, but contrary to popular belief, greed is good.
True Socialism must rely not upon the belief that all men are created equal, but that all men should be given equal opportunity. True socialism does not seek to serve others, it must seek to serve self interests. And by serving self interests, it will in turn serve others.
Here is a case study -
Man Builds Corporation->Gives New Products to People of Nation->People of Nation give Corporation Money.
Man has Money, Man Needs Safe Place to Enjoy Money->Man Gives Money to People of Nation by means of Education and Community Program Grants->People of Nation give Man Safe Environment and Respect.
Man Needs Smart People to Join Corporation->Man gives Jobs to People of Nation->People of Nation Need Money for Food, Shelter, Better Life->Educated People of Nation give Man Hard Work as Employees in Exchange for Fair Pay.
Educated People of Nation have Money, People of Nation Need Safe Place to Enjoy Money->People of Nation give money to other People of Nation by means of Education and Community Program Grants -> All People of Nation give All People of Nation Safe Environment and Respect.
It all starts with Greed and Self Interest and it all ends with Greed and Self Interest. We do not seek to serve others, but by serving ourselves appropriately we are required to serve others.
Welcome to Evolved Capitalism. Welcome to Socialism.
Here's an economics lesson. A little 101 for the leftist leader.
Capitalism is the only road that will not implode. And better yet that road does not lead to hell, - it leads to socialism. It exists to serve others, because only by serving others does it serve itself.
Survival of the Fittest is inherent in nature. As such, its byproduct Greed is unavoidable. Not only is it unavoidable, but contrary to popular belief, greed is good.
True Socialism must rely not upon the belief that all men are created equal, but that all men should be given equal opportunity. True socialism does not seek to serve others, it must seek to serve self interests. And by serving self interests, it will in turn serve others.
Here is a case study -
Man Builds Corporation->Gives New Products to People of Nation->People of Nation give Corporation Money.
Man has Money, Man Needs Safe Place to Enjoy Money->Man Gives Money to People of Nation by means of Education and Community Program Grants->People of Nation give Man Safe Environment and Respect.
Man Needs Smart People to Join Corporation->Man gives Jobs to People of Nation->People of Nation Need Money for Food, Shelter, Better Life->Educated People of Nation give Man Hard Work as Employees in Exchange for Fair Pay.
Educated People of Nation have Money, People of Nation Need Safe Place to Enjoy Money->People of Nation give money to other People of Nation by means of Education and Community Program Grants -> All People of Nation give All People of Nation Safe Environment and Respect.
It all starts with Greed and Self Interest and it all ends with Greed and Self Interest. We do not seek to serve others, but by serving ourselves appropriately we are required to serve others.
Welcome to Evolved Capitalism. Welcome to Socialism.
Wednesday, January 24, 2007
Jihad!
The latest from Rock Star Games: Jihad!
This first person game follows Akmed Ali Akmed, a 20 year old civil engineering student from Tehran, Iran as he leads a crusade against the Western infidels!
This game takes you from the halls of academia at the University of Tehran, to the bustling city of Beirut, Lebanon, into the desert to disrupt the American invasion of the Middle East, and throughout Europe as you make your way to London, England.
Along the way you will encounter dangerous situations, try to escape from the Great Satan, train others in the war against the West, and finally work on a large scale effort to undermine the London transportation infrastructure.
Level 1: Organize mass rallies where infidel flags are destroyed and effigies are burned.
Level 2: Learn to gather small arms, rocket launchers, and build improvised road side bombs.
Level 3: Recruit fellow Jihadists for car and bus bombings in Jerusalem. Work with Hezbollah to hide weapons and leadership in civilian neighborhoods. Bonus points allotted for kidnappings and beheading.
Level 4: Make way through Europe. Along the way try to persuade likeminded Jihadists to move to London.
Level 5: Open a convenience store.
Level 6: Stage large rallies throughout London to oppose Western ideals. Partner with A.N.S.W.E.R and other sympathetic Western organizations.
Level 7: Plan mass transit bombings during height of the Christmas season.
Level 8: Make way back to Iran. To try elude intelligence agencies from various Western agencies.
Level 9: Enter into public service in Iran.
Level 10: Hold world hostage through the use of religious scripture and a crudely developed nuclear weapon.
Final Objective: Convince the world you are a peace loving individual and Islam is not rooted in the sword.
He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost. Q 3:86
Dirka Dirka Dirka mohammad Jihad!
1. Dutch cartoonists targeted for murder for their depiction of muhammad.
2. Theo Van Gogh shot, throat slit, torso stabbed, chest carved open for his political views regarding islamists.
3. Millions of islamists protest and burn ephigys of Pope Benedict XVI for his question of islamists understading of holy war.
4. Millions of islamists protest over depictions of muhammad, this results in the deaths of fellow islamists.
5. Thousands of innocent civilians murdered at the hands of muhammad loving individuals...
And to believe there are actually people who think these animals are not to blame for the world's current problems???
Murdering Fascist: Part 1
Prologue: While San sat at his desk on a Tuesday afternoon looking for something other than actual work to occupy himself with he came up with a great idea; lure Darian into a political debate. Knowing Darian has the tendency to go on rants and tangents San felt that this would provide for sufficient entertainment. Through the wonders of inter-office instant messenger San cast his line. Through a series of outlandish statements Darian took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
Darian: Murdering Fascist!
San: Fascism and Communism are both on the left of the political sphere.
Darian: www.oldamericancentury.org
Darian: Fascist!
San: The most infamous fascist state was that of NAZI Germany. What did NAZI stand for? National Socialist German Workers Party.
San: Communist!
Darian: What it stands for and what it does don't have to be the same.
Darian: God stands for good, more people have died in his name than any other.
San: Their purpose was to establish a socialist state.
San: Libertarianism & Anarchism are on the Right, while Communism and Fascism are on the Left.
Darian: America stands for Freedom, Truth, & Justice. We are kicking out immigrants by the boatload, placing fences on the boarders, lying about foreign wars, and killing in foreign countries.
San: Point being?
Darian: President Bush is a fascist.
Darian: And so is America!
San: No he is not fascist. He was duly elected to his post. He has to abide by the laws of Congress. If he were fascist he would have dismantled the Congress, thrown the Supreme Court in jail, and declared himself Dictator.
San: If President Bush is fascist, than the most fascist Presidents this country have ever had would be FDR and Lincoln.
[Roosevelt for trying to pack the Supreme Court to 15 members & forcing the resignations of older members in an effort to ensure all New Deal legislation would be considered constitutional, as well as holding Japanese Americans in interment camps through the duration of World War II. ]
[Lincoln for suspending the Writ of Habeas Corpus in an effort to bypass laws to imprison nay sayers of the Union.]
San: That is what fascism in America looks like.
Darian: Ummmm...Or ignored Congress and gone ahead without their approval, vetoed their votes, then asked for an appeal of court rulings on his abuse of power, as well as requested new laws to be written to accommodate his actions.
[Note: President Bush did receive a majority of votes in the House & Senate for war with Iraq and Afghanistan. He has only vetoed 1 bill, legislation regarding government funded stem cell research. Any President would send an appeal to a ruling that was deemed threatening to their power. All Presidents lobby Congress on behalf of their legislative vision.]
San: He can veto anything he wants, it is in the constitution.
San: He can do all of that, it is written in the constitution.
Darian: He is abusing his power and keeping himself in power through lies.
San: Congress has the power to overturn vetoes and the courts have the ability to deny any appeal.
San: All Presidents abuse their power.
Darian: Murdering Fascist!
San: Fascism and Communism are both on the left of the political sphere.
Darian: www.oldamericancentury.org
Darian: Fascist!
San: The most infamous fascist state was that of NAZI Germany. What did NAZI stand for? National Socialist German Workers Party.
San: Communist!
Darian: What it stands for and what it does don't have to be the same.
Darian: God stands for good, more people have died in his name than any other.
San: Their purpose was to establish a socialist state.
San: Libertarianism & Anarchism are on the Right, while Communism and Fascism are on the Left.
Darian: America stands for Freedom, Truth, & Justice. We are kicking out immigrants by the boatload, placing fences on the boarders, lying about foreign wars, and killing in foreign countries.
San: Point being?
Darian: President Bush is a fascist.
Darian: And so is America!
San: No he is not fascist. He was duly elected to his post. He has to abide by the laws of Congress. If he were fascist he would have dismantled the Congress, thrown the Supreme Court in jail, and declared himself Dictator.
San: If President Bush is fascist, than the most fascist Presidents this country have ever had would be FDR and Lincoln.
[Roosevelt for trying to pack the Supreme Court to 15 members & forcing the resignations of older members in an effort to ensure all New Deal legislation would be considered constitutional, as well as holding Japanese Americans in interment camps through the duration of World War II. ]
[Lincoln for suspending the Writ of Habeas Corpus in an effort to bypass laws to imprison nay sayers of the Union.]
San: That is what fascism in America looks like.
Darian: Ummmm...Or ignored Congress and gone ahead without their approval, vetoed their votes, then asked for an appeal of court rulings on his abuse of power, as well as requested new laws to be written to accommodate his actions.
[Note: President Bush did receive a majority of votes in the House & Senate for war with Iraq and Afghanistan. He has only vetoed 1 bill, legislation regarding government funded stem cell research. Any President would send an appeal to a ruling that was deemed threatening to their power. All Presidents lobby Congress on behalf of their legislative vision.]
San: He can veto anything he wants, it is in the constitution.
San: He can do all of that, it is written in the constitution.
Darian: He is abusing his power and keeping himself in power through lies.
San: Congress has the power to overturn vetoes and the courts have the ability to deny any appeal.
San: All Presidents abuse their power.
Murdering Fascist: Part 2
[We catch up with San and Darian involved in a heated debate over whether President Bush is a fascist or not. San has just stated that all Presidents abuse their power, while Darian tries to equate Presidential abuses to Fascism.]
San: That is why checks and balances were developed.
San: Look at constitutional history in America. There are periods in time where Presidents have been weak and there are periods in time where Presidents have been strong.
Darian: That is a pretty short history you are looking at.
Darian: Let's look at the history of Rome. S
an: Rome does not matter. Rome is dead.
Darian: How did it die?
San: Rome is not the point here.
Darian: Cause of death?
Darian: Fascist rulers who abused power and stretched their military until it broke.
San: Over reaching its boundaries, spreading the empire thin, and leaving the capital un-protected.
Darian: And our military is where?
San: The thing about Rome was that it was invaded. That was key to its downfall.
San: No nation in history has ever been unable to conquer another without 'boots on the ground'.
San: Look at where the United States is on the map.
San: Yes, it can be said that someone will use a nuclear bomb against the United States, but only a mad man would do such a thing. But, most mad men are smart enough to realize that the destruction of the world is not advantageous.
Darian: Yes, boots on the ground. Boots in many cases already in the country illegally.
San: Yes, the immigrants will rise up and conquer this nation.
San: Not likely.
Darian: A terrorist cell could.
San: That is why checks and balances were developed.
San: Look at constitutional history in America. There are periods in time where Presidents have been weak and there are periods in time where Presidents have been strong.
Darian: That is a pretty short history you are looking at.
Darian: Let's look at the history of Rome. S
an: Rome does not matter. Rome is dead.
Darian: How did it die?
San: Rome is not the point here.
Darian: Cause of death?
Darian: Fascist rulers who abused power and stretched their military until it broke.
San: Over reaching its boundaries, spreading the empire thin, and leaving the capital un-protected.
Darian: And our military is where?
San: The thing about Rome was that it was invaded. That was key to its downfall.
San: No nation in history has ever been unable to conquer another without 'boots on the ground'.
San: Look at where the United States is on the map.
San: Yes, it can be said that someone will use a nuclear bomb against the United States, but only a mad man would do such a thing. But, most mad men are smart enough to realize that the destruction of the world is not advantageous.
Darian: Yes, boots on the ground. Boots in many cases already in the country illegally.
San: Yes, the immigrants will rise up and conquer this nation.
San: Not likely.
Darian: A terrorist cell could.
Murdering Fascist: Part 3
[ We find San and Darian moving from the downfall of Rome to the notion that illegal immigrants will rise and overthrown the government of the United States. By this time at least 30 minutes has gone by. San, from the vantage point of his desk is able to watch his manager and co-workers hard at work. Darian too enjoys not doing actual work. This type of behavior might bring a promotion or add responsibility in this company; not doing much work seemed to work in favor for TheCaptain.]
Darian:[Referring to terrorist immigrant cells in the United States]
Drive the country to a standstill and then march in and take over Washington D.C., why not?
Darian: Your military might would not be able to get into its capital to do anything without the proper authorization already.
San: The military command is not only stationed in Washington D.C., NORAD is in Colorado, each state has the National Guard, as well as various levels of military structure throughout various sects of this nation.
San: The authorization of Marshal Law. Darian: So you'll see the fall of the United States and the rise of individual states, all fight one another.
San: No we won't. Darian: Unlikely, but possible. San: Not likely at all. Darian: Yes, that is the meaning of unlikely.
[Yes, Professor]
Darian: It was unlikely that Rome would fall.
San: First of all, an attack or an invasions from an outside nation would spur nationalism like you have never seen before in this country.
Darian: From the outside exactly! The beauty of terrorism.
Darian: Rome fell from the inside.
San: Any attack on this country from within or outside would spur nationalism, bring the country closer together against a great enemy.
Darian: The enemy is within, it is the 50/50 split between a widening party line.
San: You doubt the power of the United States because politicians of late have been unable to use it properly. Once a President or General comes along who understands how to use the American military you will think again of out strength.
Darian: It is a lower class citizen whose rights are removed. The protesting by immigrants, you might have seen it on the news earlier this year?
San: They are not citizens.
San: They are people protesting because they broke the law.
Darian. They live here, they are.
San: Law on the books state they are not citizens, so they are not citizens.
San: By you going to France and living there without a Visa does not make you French.
Darian: Rome had laws that kept rights from slaves. They caused more of the destruction than the barbarians.
San: These people are not slaves. They are paid workers.
Darian: Yes, they are, just a different kind.
San: No, when you are paid and have the ability to come and go from job to job as you please you are not a slave.
Darian: People with something to fight for make an amazing army.
San: Yes, but that does not make them slaves. They are not bound to servitude.
San: Take a brief look at immigration history in the United States. at the turn of the century it was awful to be Irish. They were seen as the scum of the earth. They were unable to get jobs anywhere. They were even forced into railroad labor. Now, a little of a century later no one cares if you are Irish.
San: Immigrant sects need to work their way up the ladder. The Irish did it, the Chinese did it, the Mexicans in time will do it to.
Darian: To regress, President Bush is a fascist. What is more fascist than a faulty election?
Darian:[Referring to terrorist immigrant cells in the United States]
Drive the country to a standstill and then march in and take over Washington D.C., why not?
Darian: Your military might would not be able to get into its capital to do anything without the proper authorization already.
San: The military command is not only stationed in Washington D.C., NORAD is in Colorado, each state has the National Guard, as well as various levels of military structure throughout various sects of this nation.
San: The authorization of Marshal Law. Darian: So you'll see the fall of the United States and the rise of individual states, all fight one another.
San: No we won't. Darian: Unlikely, but possible. San: Not likely at all. Darian: Yes, that is the meaning of unlikely.
[Yes, Professor]
Darian: It was unlikely that Rome would fall.
San: First of all, an attack or an invasions from an outside nation would spur nationalism like you have never seen before in this country.
Darian: From the outside exactly! The beauty of terrorism.
Darian: Rome fell from the inside.
San: Any attack on this country from within or outside would spur nationalism, bring the country closer together against a great enemy.
Darian: The enemy is within, it is the 50/50 split between a widening party line.
San: You doubt the power of the United States because politicians of late have been unable to use it properly. Once a President or General comes along who understands how to use the American military you will think again of out strength.
Darian: It is a lower class citizen whose rights are removed. The protesting by immigrants, you might have seen it on the news earlier this year?
San: They are not citizens.
San: They are people protesting because they broke the law.
Darian. They live here, they are.
San: Law on the books state they are not citizens, so they are not citizens.
San: By you going to France and living there without a Visa does not make you French.
Darian: Rome had laws that kept rights from slaves. They caused more of the destruction than the barbarians.
San: These people are not slaves. They are paid workers.
Darian: Yes, they are, just a different kind.
San: No, when you are paid and have the ability to come and go from job to job as you please you are not a slave.
Darian: People with something to fight for make an amazing army.
San: Yes, but that does not make them slaves. They are not bound to servitude.
San: Take a brief look at immigration history in the United States. at the turn of the century it was awful to be Irish. They were seen as the scum of the earth. They were unable to get jobs anywhere. They were even forced into railroad labor. Now, a little of a century later no one cares if you are Irish.
San: Immigrant sects need to work their way up the ladder. The Irish did it, the Chinese did it, the Mexicans in time will do it to.
Darian: To regress, President Bush is a fascist. What is more fascist than a faulty election?
Murdering Fascist: Part 4
[After 45 minutes of banter back and forth, San and Darian finally make it to everyone's favorite topic: The 2000 Presidential Election. Darian finds himself in trouble having lost the immigrant argument. He tries to make up some lost ground by stating the election results was a fascist overthrow of a would-be government run by El Presidente Gore. ]
San: The fact that Gore lost his own state of Tennessee was the sole reason that George Bush is President. Having terrible candidates does not equate to fascism. Darian: Losing the popular vote and ending up in office does!
San: If Gore had called for a total recall of all counties in Florida he would have been elected President but he did not. San: It has happened four times in the history of the United States. [Adams 1824, Hayes1876, Harrison 1888, & Bush 2000]
San: The framers established the electoral college that way. The EC trumps the popular vote. That explains why this nation is a Republic and not a Democracy. The people do not select their leaders. Rome was a Republic by the way. S
an: Direction elections to public office get you people like Tom Delay. San: That is why US Senators should no longer be directly elected. We must rescind the 17th Amendment and have states legislatures selected the US Senate representative. Darian: Not trusting your people enough to let them elect their leaders gets you a fascist country. San: No, it is a Republican form of government (In the political theory sense).
San: Most people are stupid, so they cannot be trusted to make the right decisions. That was the reasoning behind the Electoral college and the why Senators were not directly elected prior to the 17th Amendment.
San: The framers believed that if popular opinion took hold of the country we would not progress as a people. Take a look at the House of Representatives. The House has always been directly elected. Any two bit schmuck can make it there.
San: The Senate used to be a great institution with great mean doing good for this country. Now with the direct election of Senators it has become much more like the House. [i.e. Terri Schiavo debacle]
[Bill Frist stops the entire Senate in order to get involved with a family dispute. The whole of the US Senate stopped working and voted for a bill that affected 1 person. A country of 300 million and the Senate focuses on 1 single person, who mind you, tried to kill herself and did not do a good job at it. So now we get people like Bill Frist who bends to every gust of public opinion]
Darian: Popular opinion only lasts about 5 years. That's about how long it takes to realize the effects of political decisions economically.
San: That is bad! You want to 'cool' popular opinion so rash decisions are not made. That is the role of the Senate, or it used to be, but not anymore!
Darian:How do you explain President Bush? Popular opinion would have brought you a President Gore.
San: statistical dead heat, popular opinion 50/50, dumb and dumber, that is how you explain President Bush.
San: If the outcome were different you would not have a problem and call it fair. Any liberal would.
San: This country has been going down a drain for sometime now and it is all due to the winds of popular opinion and the notion that this country is somehow a Democracy.
San: The way issues are marketed to the public and than spun into 'Get Out The Vote' campaigns is sick. I yearn for the 1830's,1840's & 1850's.
San: The fact that Gore lost his own state of Tennessee was the sole reason that George Bush is President. Having terrible candidates does not equate to fascism. Darian: Losing the popular vote and ending up in office does!
San: If Gore had called for a total recall of all counties in Florida he would have been elected President but he did not. San: It has happened four times in the history of the United States. [Adams 1824, Hayes1876, Harrison 1888, & Bush 2000]
San: The framers established the electoral college that way. The EC trumps the popular vote. That explains why this nation is a Republic and not a Democracy. The people do not select their leaders. Rome was a Republic by the way. S
an: Direction elections to public office get you people like Tom Delay. San: That is why US Senators should no longer be directly elected. We must rescind the 17th Amendment and have states legislatures selected the US Senate representative. Darian: Not trusting your people enough to let them elect their leaders gets you a fascist country. San: No, it is a Republican form of government (In the political theory sense).
San: Most people are stupid, so they cannot be trusted to make the right decisions. That was the reasoning behind the Electoral college and the why Senators were not directly elected prior to the 17th Amendment.
San: The framers believed that if popular opinion took hold of the country we would not progress as a people. Take a look at the House of Representatives. The House has always been directly elected. Any two bit schmuck can make it there.
San: The Senate used to be a great institution with great mean doing good for this country. Now with the direct election of Senators it has become much more like the House. [i.e. Terri Schiavo debacle]
[Bill Frist stops the entire Senate in order to get involved with a family dispute. The whole of the US Senate stopped working and voted for a bill that affected 1 person. A country of 300 million and the Senate focuses on 1 single person, who mind you, tried to kill herself and did not do a good job at it. So now we get people like Bill Frist who bends to every gust of public opinion]
Darian: Popular opinion only lasts about 5 years. That's about how long it takes to realize the effects of political decisions economically.
San: That is bad! You want to 'cool' popular opinion so rash decisions are not made. That is the role of the Senate, or it used to be, but not anymore!
Darian:How do you explain President Bush? Popular opinion would have brought you a President Gore.
San: statistical dead heat, popular opinion 50/50, dumb and dumber, that is how you explain President Bush.
San: If the outcome were different you would not have a problem and call it fair. Any liberal would.
San: This country has been going down a drain for sometime now and it is all due to the winds of popular opinion and the notion that this country is somehow a Democracy.
San: The way issues are marketed to the public and than spun into 'Get Out The Vote' campaigns is sick. I yearn for the 1830's,1840's & 1850's.
Murdering Fascist: Part 5
[We are now an hour into the debate, emails have gone un-answered, phone calls disregarded and San has Darian on the ropes. In a desperate attempt to make a point Darian does what any good liberal would do, he blames President Bush on everything.]
Darian: If the election had gone the other way, I would not be facing ridiculous gas prices, we might have a cure for Alzheimer’s, a couple thousand redneck Americans might still be alive, I could risk international travel without a Canadian t-shirt, the air would be cleaner, and Enron would be just another dumb Texas company run into the ground. [Note: He never answers the question of whether he feels the election would be fascist if the outcome had been a President Gore]
San: Gas prices were bound to go up, 9/11 would still have happened, and Enron would have gone down in 2001 anyways.
San: Those things did not just start to happen on January 29th 2001 and come to head on September 11th 2001, each of those situations made been in the making for years.
Darian: Arnold wouldn't be a Governor without President Bush and Enron interfering.
San: Gray Davis mismanaged the state and allowed himself to be taken out. Any politician that dumb deserves to lose.
Darian: No, they deserve to left alone. Davis opened the door to competition in energy, President Bush's proposal and test, but it wasn't competition, it never is with Bush. It was a monopoly.
Darian: And if you need another example I will hand you Halliburton.
Darian: Dumb do-nothing politicians are amazing. Darian: Dumb, acting politicians are dangerous.
San: Most are dumb do-nothings.
Darian: Yeah, they're liberals. They want to sit around talk things out.
Darian: I have to go.
San: Later.
Epilogue: San Soucri has ADD and when something has perked his interests he has to run with it. So despite that fact the Darian has left the conversation to go and do actual work San is left to himself. So what does he do? Continues to write. This will go on for another 15 minutes before San has to stop and get something accomplished before leaving work at 5 p.m.
San: Enron abused the system and got caught, justice was served. On January 29th 2001 Enron did not decided to than just hike up energy costs. You saw "Smartest Guys in the Room" it has been going on since the early 90's. The crimes they committed did not solely depend on who was in office at the time. It was the deregulation of energy policy through various administrations.
San: With gas prices going up it can be said that the War with Iraq has had an effect, but what is having an even greater effect is the fact India and China are consuming more oil. This is having a short term and long to effect.
San: The United States does not even get oil from Iran, small amounts from Iraq, a majority of oil that is consumed come from US oil wells, Canada, and Venezuela.
San: 9/11 would have occurred despite who was in the Oval Office. On January 29th 2001 Bin Laden sitting in his cave did not say to himself DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA Bush is President, must Attack DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA.
San: 9/11 had been planned for months, even years. The 1993 attack at the WTC was on President Clinton's watch, along with the attack on the USS Cole.
San: You have to look at America through the eyes of history. Yes, we have done terrible things, so have most other nations. We, on the other hand have also given so much back to the world. Countless nations use the Declaration of Independence as a benchmark statement for their freedoms. We have saved Europe from itself twice. Aided in the destruction of Communism, Encouraged man to explore outside of the boundaries of this planet. Eventually righted the wrong of slavery. Helped bring the world from the 17th century into the industrial age. Bridged the Pacific & Atlantic oceans.
San: The problem with liberals is that they only see the country as it is right now and not what it could be or can be. The American experiment never dies, it may lay low, but every so often Americans actually take pride in their nation and change the world for the better.
San: Liberals don't have the power and it erks them when they have come so close. Republicans have handed the Democrats the Presidency, House, Senate on a silver platter and the Democrats just shit all over themselves when they get anywhere near attain power. The sad thing is liberals love to lose, they see it as noble, for a cause.
San: Fuck the cause, attain power!
Darian: If the election had gone the other way, I would not be facing ridiculous gas prices, we might have a cure for Alzheimer’s, a couple thousand redneck Americans might still be alive, I could risk international travel without a Canadian t-shirt, the air would be cleaner, and Enron would be just another dumb Texas company run into the ground. [Note: He never answers the question of whether he feels the election would be fascist if the outcome had been a President Gore]
San: Gas prices were bound to go up, 9/11 would still have happened, and Enron would have gone down in 2001 anyways.
San: Those things did not just start to happen on January 29th 2001 and come to head on September 11th 2001, each of those situations made been in the making for years.
Darian: Arnold wouldn't be a Governor without President Bush and Enron interfering.
San: Gray Davis mismanaged the state and allowed himself to be taken out. Any politician that dumb deserves to lose.
Darian: No, they deserve to left alone. Davis opened the door to competition in energy, President Bush's proposal and test, but it wasn't competition, it never is with Bush. It was a monopoly.
Darian: And if you need another example I will hand you Halliburton.
Darian: Dumb do-nothing politicians are amazing. Darian: Dumb, acting politicians are dangerous.
San: Most are dumb do-nothings.
Darian: Yeah, they're liberals. They want to sit around talk things out.
Darian: I have to go.
San: Later.
Epilogue: San Soucri has ADD and when something has perked his interests he has to run with it. So despite that fact the Darian has left the conversation to go and do actual work San is left to himself. So what does he do? Continues to write. This will go on for another 15 minutes before San has to stop and get something accomplished before leaving work at 5 p.m.
San: Enron abused the system and got caught, justice was served. On January 29th 2001 Enron did not decided to than just hike up energy costs. You saw "Smartest Guys in the Room" it has been going on since the early 90's. The crimes they committed did not solely depend on who was in office at the time. It was the deregulation of energy policy through various administrations.
San: With gas prices going up it can be said that the War with Iraq has had an effect, but what is having an even greater effect is the fact India and China are consuming more oil. This is having a short term and long to effect.
San: The United States does not even get oil from Iran, small amounts from Iraq, a majority of oil that is consumed come from US oil wells, Canada, and Venezuela.
San: 9/11 would have occurred despite who was in the Oval Office. On January 29th 2001 Bin Laden sitting in his cave did not say to himself DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA Bush is President, must Attack DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA.
San: 9/11 had been planned for months, even years. The 1993 attack at the WTC was on President Clinton's watch, along with the attack on the USS Cole.
San: You have to look at America through the eyes of history. Yes, we have done terrible things, so have most other nations. We, on the other hand have also given so much back to the world. Countless nations use the Declaration of Independence as a benchmark statement for their freedoms. We have saved Europe from itself twice. Aided in the destruction of Communism, Encouraged man to explore outside of the boundaries of this planet. Eventually righted the wrong of slavery. Helped bring the world from the 17th century into the industrial age. Bridged the Pacific & Atlantic oceans.
San: The problem with liberals is that they only see the country as it is right now and not what it could be or can be. The American experiment never dies, it may lay low, but every so often Americans actually take pride in their nation and change the world for the better.
San: Liberals don't have the power and it erks them when they have come so close. Republicans have handed the Democrats the Presidency, House, Senate on a silver platter and the Democrats just shit all over themselves when they get anywhere near attain power. The sad thing is liberals love to lose, they see it as noble, for a cause.
San: Fuck the cause, attain power!
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
Conversational Debate Series - Goals of War or Lack There Of
San.Soucri [10:19 AM]:
we have to destory these people to save them...just like they should have done with new orleans
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
Don't destroy them
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
If they are that bad, they will destroy themselves
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
then all we have to do is be the model by which they choose to rebuild
San.Soucri [10:24 AM]:
not with muslims
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
they have been this way for 1000 years
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
sure, they'll destroy themselves, leave them on the other side of the world
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
won't happen, these people have to be destoryed
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
let them tear themselves to pieces and when they're ready,
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
they will look at us and go... hey that looks good, let's try that
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
no
Darian.Kallel [10:26 AM]:
you can lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink
San.Soucri [10:26 AM]:
they are a society based in religion
Darian.Kallel [10:26 AM]:
we are trying to make these people drink, when what we should be doing is showing them the way
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
why don't we just stay out of their way,
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
and then if they do get in ours, we take the ones responsible, publicly punish them and move on,
San.Soucri [10:28 AM]:
not until we improve our technology will that happen, and right now it is not economically viable to does so
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
punishing the whole religion only gives their leaders a scapegoat to point at
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
i am all in favor of leaving them to rot in hell for their stupid beliefs
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
their religion is wrong
Darian.Kallel [10:29 AM]:
there you go, just leave, leave the middle east, leave the stupid muslims and don't look back
Darian.Kallel [10:29 AM]:
why are we even bothering to begin with
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
they are bothering us
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
then kill the ones that are bothering us and go back home
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
we did not fly planes into the towers, we did not set bombs on USS Cole, we did not bomb and kill are own Marines in Lebonon
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
they started this when they fought back
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
why do we have marines in lebanon
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
we did
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
in the 80s
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
wouldn't that be invading their land.
San.Soucri [10:31 AM]:
they were stationed there, just like they are in dozens of other countries
Darian.Kallel [10:31 AM]:
what if the Somalian leaders came over to DC with a force of 6000 starving troops with spears and said... no, no, no you've got it all wrong and we're going to stay here and make you do it right
San.Soucri [10:33 AM]:
good point, unrealistic. we were in somalia to stop Adid from killing his own people, who could not defend thesmelves
Darian.Kallel [10:34 AM]:
oh that's so nice of us, maybe they should come over here and make us stop driving cars and cutting down trees because we're killing the environment
San.Soucri [10:34 AM]:
so is everyone else in the world
Darian.Kallel [10:34 AM]:
if everyone is doing it then it must be right
San.Soucri [10:34 AM]:
no, it is just fact
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
whether it is right or wrong is not the point
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
it's ok to kill, the muslims are killing
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
it is only ok if you kill a muslim
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
it's ok to lie, the US govt is doing it
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
all gov'ts lie. again right or wrong is not the point it is just the facts
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
so it's ok to kill any muslim?
Darian.Kallel [10:36 AM]:
I can just choose one off the street?
Darian.Kallel [10:36 AM]:
who said that's ok?
San.Soucri [10:36 AM]:
it is just known that it is right
Darian.Kallel [10:37 AM]:
kinda like hitler told his people, the jews are to blame for all our problems, it's ok to kill them, to torture them
San.Soucri [10:37 AM]:
the Jews did nothing to provoke Hitler, the Muslims did do something
Darian.Kallel [10:37 AM]:
the whole must serve the punishment of the few
Darian.Kallel [10:38 AM]:
what did the muslims do to provoke us?
San.Soucri [10:38 AM]:
9/11 among other things.
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
was it "ALL" the muslims, or was it just a few people under the leadership of Bin Laden
San.Soucri [10:39 AM]:
does not matter
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
who we still do not have in custody
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
WTF!!!!
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
it's one fucking guy!
San.Soucri [10:40 AM]:
those others have decided to hide amongst civilians
Darian.Kallel [10:40 AM]:
well fucking find them
Darian.Kallel [10:40 AM]:
if we're so almighty, it shouldn't be that goddamn difficult
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
the man is attached to a dialysis machine for christ sake,
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
find him, drag him to ground zero,
San.Soucri [10:41 AM]:
he's dead. but that does not matter, his death or capture will not bring an end to islamic terrorism
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
call in the tv crews, give the cowboy president a six shooter, tie Bin's hands behind his back,
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
drop him to his knees on national television, look into the camera and promise that should anyone else do this 'shit' you've got the same thing coming
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
then in front of everyone, let the chief fight his own battle and blow the man's brains out
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
for all the world to see
San.Soucri [10:42 AM]:
i agree that the war was run poorly and that we shoud never have gone to iraq but that is history....now move on and face the future
San.Soucri [10:44 AM]:
The President had the world in the palm of his hand. He could have used it to pit the civilized world againts islam. Pit Islam against itself. Started a religious civil war. Gone down in history as the greatest president in American history. He was given a great opportunity. but nwo the country has to deal with what has since happened
Darian.Kallel [10:48 AM]:
yeah,
Darian.Kallel [10:48 AM]:
so learn from history
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
read a book, oh look the Brits were here for a few hundred years trying this... cool flip to the end see what happened... oh shit, nothing! Oh well maybe we should stop wasting our money picking this fight and pull out. Mind we'll need to launch a massive media campaign to let america know that we've given them every opportunity
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
we've won the battle and now it is in the hands of the iraqi people to move forward as a nation,
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
they must learn to survive on their own as we did
Darian.Kallel [10:51 AM]:
that way 2 years later when the coup goes down, we can say, the iraqi people were just not ready for the challenge and we are extremely saddened and hope that one day they will have the strength to succeed on their own
San.Soucri [10:52 AM]:
Until the muslim religion in wiped from the face of the earth they will not evolve
Darian.Kallel [10:52 AM]:
ummmm... that will never happen, until we educate them, killing them increases their numbers,
Darian.Kallel [10:52 AM]:
educating decreases their survival rate
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
think about it, why would you need catholic colleges
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
to control education, to control thought,
San.Soucri [10:53 AM]:
i would love to nuke the entire middle east
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
that would only really piss off the rest of the muslims who oh by the way LIVE in OUR COUNTRY
San.Soucri [10:54 AM]:
who cares, if we get rid of 95% of them great
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
then you've turned the other 5% into suicide bombers filled with rage, and they have all the means necessary to carry out the attack because they live here, they know us, they work with us and you just killed their mommy
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
GOOD.they they will kill themselves
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
and take us with them
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
some of us
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
not all
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
and what will fill the void in the middle east?
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
hotels
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
golf courses
Darian.Kallel [10:56 AM]:
not to mention the nuclear fallout, the immediate rise of gas prices worldwide and the economic fallout from such a blow to the gas industry, thousands of americans would die as their homes went unheated
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
the rest of the world would turn on the united states,
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
damned if the venezuelans would give us their oil for helping out the poor people of america
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
nothing would improve, nuking them only creates ten more problems for us
San.Soucri [10:57 AM]:
Chavez should have been assassinated in New York last week
San.Soucri [10:57 AM]:
by a person posed as a muslim
Darian.Kallel [10:58 AM]:
yeah, people who help president bush stave off the economic crises he created should be shot
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
giving oil to the poor, dumb idiots,
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
let them die, that way they can't vote
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
survival of the fittest
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
oh but wait, if they're dead who will fight in iraq?
San.Soucri [11:00 AM]:
survival of the fittest, this would mean liberal and commies would die
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
nobody?!
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
perfect!
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
good, we need a new breed of liberals,
San.Soucri [11:00 AM]:
we don't need liberals
Darian.Kallel [11:01 AM]:
govt officials would be the last to die
San.Soucri [11:01 AM]:
gov't officials should be the first to die
Darian.Kallel [11:01 AM]:
they'd steal from everyone else until the bitter end
San.Soucri [11:01 AM]:
we need people of america to stop thinking about the well being of others, learn to take care of their country first, and be proud of their nation
Darian.Kallel [11:02 AM]:
yeah, take care of us, pull the damn troops out of iraq
Darian.Kallel [11:02 AM]:
cut off the head of the snakes that attack us and warn the other snakes to stay out of our grass
San.Soucri [11:03 AM]:
i am talking about the working poor of america, the homeless children, the uneducated...not trying to free tibet, save a muslim somewhere, save a whale
Darian.Kallel [11:03 AM]:
who gives a shit about tibet?
San.Soucri [11:03 AM]:
have you read to new intel report...their is no head to this enemy
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
sad man... do you believe the new intel report?
San.Soucri [11:04 AM]:
there are independent cells working without direct leadership in bin ladens groups
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
is this the same intel that put a stop to the bombings on 9/11?
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
oh no! Thats right! They didn't stop the bombings on 9/11
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
they didnt' do shit,
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
cuz they dont' know shit
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
really who is training these cells?
San.Soucri [11:05 AM]:
the intellegence community knew everything that was going on..pre- 9/11
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
oh wait it was Bin Laden's camps for years...
San.Soucri [11:05 AM]:
whether the elected officials in gov't did anything about it was another
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
so the intelligence community needs to be put to death for not doing their job
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
that's the dumbest intelligence community I've ever heard of,
San.Soucri [11:06 AM]:
you need to stop blaming people who are not elected to their post...elected politicians are to blame for this mess
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
"watch my purse while I go to the bathroom" - old lady
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
"I've got it! No problem!" - Intelligence community
Darian.Kallel [11:07 AM]:
"where's my purse?!" - old lady returning from bathroom
Darian.Kallel [11:07 AM]:
"I watched this character with a turban steal it!" - intelligence community
San.Soucri [11:07 AM]:
The CIA cannot act without presidential/congressional approval
Darian.Kallel [11:08 AM]:
Oh wow! Glad we have those guys!
San.Soucri [11:08 AM]:
why did the CIA kill Bin Laden in the 90's? President Clinton
Darian.Kallel [11:08 AM]:
oh good so it's not just them, it's the whole damn system that's fucked!
San.Soucri [11:08 AM]:
Why didn't they stop Bin Ladin in 01, Bush
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
and Bush marched into Iraq
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
Brilliant!
San.Soucri [11:09 AM]:
the intelliegence community is not fucked, it is the politicans running the government
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
oh wait, shit that's not where Bin Laden is...
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
so if the intelligence community is not fucked and they are doing their job.
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
then where is bin laden
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
??
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
dead
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
in Tora Bora
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
show me his bones
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
where Hitler?
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
oh but we claimed he was dead,
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
if we're so sure about bin laden, then claim it
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
publicly
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
This sitaution is bigger than Bin Laden
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
he does not matter anymore, he is not in charge
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
oh shit thats a gamble, if he comes up with another video tape, then Bush is completely incompetent
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
the video tape...prove the dates
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
and if he is dead, then leave IRAQ!
San.Soucri [11:12 AM]:
can't
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
why not?
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
who gives a shit,
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
not our country!
we have to destory these people to save them...just like they should have done with new orleans
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
Don't destroy them
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
If they are that bad, they will destroy themselves
Darian.Kallel [10:24 AM]:
then all we have to do is be the model by which they choose to rebuild
San.Soucri [10:24 AM]:
not with muslims
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
they have been this way for 1000 years
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
sure, they'll destroy themselves, leave them on the other side of the world
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
won't happen, these people have to be destoryed
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
let them tear themselves to pieces and when they're ready,
Darian.Kallel [10:25 AM]:
they will look at us and go... hey that looks good, let's try that
San.Soucri [10:25 AM]:
no
Darian.Kallel [10:26 AM]:
you can lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink
San.Soucri [10:26 AM]:
they are a society based in religion
Darian.Kallel [10:26 AM]:
we are trying to make these people drink, when what we should be doing is showing them the way
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
why don't we just stay out of their way,
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
and then if they do get in ours, we take the ones responsible, publicly punish them and move on,
San.Soucri [10:28 AM]:
not until we improve our technology will that happen, and right now it is not economically viable to does so
Darian.Kallel [10:28 AM]:
punishing the whole religion only gives their leaders a scapegoat to point at
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
i am all in favor of leaving them to rot in hell for their stupid beliefs
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
their religion is wrong
Darian.Kallel [10:29 AM]:
there you go, just leave, leave the middle east, leave the stupid muslims and don't look back
Darian.Kallel [10:29 AM]:
why are we even bothering to begin with
San.Soucri [10:29 AM]:
they are bothering us
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
then kill the ones that are bothering us and go back home
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
we did not fly planes into the towers, we did not set bombs on USS Cole, we did not bomb and kill are own Marines in Lebonon
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
they started this when they fought back
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
why do we have marines in lebanon
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
we did
San.Soucri [10:30 AM]:
in the 80s
Darian.Kallel [10:30 AM]:
wouldn't that be invading their land.
San.Soucri [10:31 AM]:
they were stationed there, just like they are in dozens of other countries
Darian.Kallel [10:31 AM]:
what if the Somalian leaders came over to DC with a force of 6000 starving troops with spears and said... no, no, no you've got it all wrong and we're going to stay here and make you do it right
San.Soucri [10:33 AM]:
good point, unrealistic. we were in somalia to stop Adid from killing his own people, who could not defend thesmelves
Darian.Kallel [10:34 AM]:
oh that's so nice of us, maybe they should come over here and make us stop driving cars and cutting down trees because we're killing the environment
San.Soucri [10:34 AM]:
so is everyone else in the world
Darian.Kallel [10:34 AM]:
if everyone is doing it then it must be right
San.Soucri [10:34 AM]:
no, it is just fact
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
whether it is right or wrong is not the point
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
it's ok to kill, the muslims are killing
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
it is only ok if you kill a muslim
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
it's ok to lie, the US govt is doing it
San.Soucri [10:35 AM]:
all gov'ts lie. again right or wrong is not the point it is just the facts
Darian.Kallel [10:35 AM]:
so it's ok to kill any muslim?
Darian.Kallel [10:36 AM]:
I can just choose one off the street?
Darian.Kallel [10:36 AM]:
who said that's ok?
San.Soucri [10:36 AM]:
it is just known that it is right
Darian.Kallel [10:37 AM]:
kinda like hitler told his people, the jews are to blame for all our problems, it's ok to kill them, to torture them
San.Soucri [10:37 AM]:
the Jews did nothing to provoke Hitler, the Muslims did do something
Darian.Kallel [10:37 AM]:
the whole must serve the punishment of the few
Darian.Kallel [10:38 AM]:
what did the muslims do to provoke us?
San.Soucri [10:38 AM]:
9/11 among other things.
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
was it "ALL" the muslims, or was it just a few people under the leadership of Bin Laden
San.Soucri [10:39 AM]:
does not matter
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
who we still do not have in custody
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
WTF!!!!
Darian.Kallel [10:39 AM]:
it's one fucking guy!
San.Soucri [10:40 AM]:
those others have decided to hide amongst civilians
Darian.Kallel [10:40 AM]:
well fucking find them
Darian.Kallel [10:40 AM]:
if we're so almighty, it shouldn't be that goddamn difficult
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
the man is attached to a dialysis machine for christ sake,
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
find him, drag him to ground zero,
San.Soucri [10:41 AM]:
he's dead. but that does not matter, his death or capture will not bring an end to islamic terrorism
Darian.Kallel [10:41 AM]:
call in the tv crews, give the cowboy president a six shooter, tie Bin's hands behind his back,
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
drop him to his knees on national television, look into the camera and promise that should anyone else do this 'shit' you've got the same thing coming
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
then in front of everyone, let the chief fight his own battle and blow the man's brains out
Darian.Kallel [10:42 AM]:
for all the world to see
San.Soucri [10:42 AM]:
i agree that the war was run poorly and that we shoud never have gone to iraq but that is history....now move on and face the future
San.Soucri [10:44 AM]:
The President had the world in the palm of his hand. He could have used it to pit the civilized world againts islam. Pit Islam against itself. Started a religious civil war. Gone down in history as the greatest president in American history. He was given a great opportunity. but nwo the country has to deal with what has since happened
Darian.Kallel [10:48 AM]:
yeah,
Darian.Kallel [10:48 AM]:
so learn from history
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
read a book, oh look the Brits were here for a few hundred years trying this... cool flip to the end see what happened... oh shit, nothing! Oh well maybe we should stop wasting our money picking this fight and pull out. Mind we'll need to launch a massive media campaign to let america know that we've given them every opportunity
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
we've won the battle and now it is in the hands of the iraqi people to move forward as a nation,
Darian.Kallel [10:50 AM]:
they must learn to survive on their own as we did
Darian.Kallel [10:51 AM]:
that way 2 years later when the coup goes down, we can say, the iraqi people were just not ready for the challenge and we are extremely saddened and hope that one day they will have the strength to succeed on their own
San.Soucri [10:52 AM]:
Until the muslim religion in wiped from the face of the earth they will not evolve
Darian.Kallel [10:52 AM]:
ummmm... that will never happen, until we educate them, killing them increases their numbers,
Darian.Kallel [10:52 AM]:
educating decreases their survival rate
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
think about it, why would you need catholic colleges
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
to control education, to control thought,
San.Soucri [10:53 AM]:
i would love to nuke the entire middle east
Darian.Kallel [10:53 AM]:
that would only really piss off the rest of the muslims who oh by the way LIVE in OUR COUNTRY
San.Soucri [10:54 AM]:
who cares, if we get rid of 95% of them great
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
then you've turned the other 5% into suicide bombers filled with rage, and they have all the means necessary to carry out the attack because they live here, they know us, they work with us and you just killed their mommy
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
GOOD.they they will kill themselves
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
and take us with them
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
some of us
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
not all
Darian.Kallel [10:55 AM]:
and what will fill the void in the middle east?
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
hotels
San.Soucri [10:55 AM]:
golf courses
Darian.Kallel [10:56 AM]:
not to mention the nuclear fallout, the immediate rise of gas prices worldwide and the economic fallout from such a blow to the gas industry, thousands of americans would die as their homes went unheated
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
the rest of the world would turn on the united states,
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
damned if the venezuelans would give us their oil for helping out the poor people of america
Darian.Kallel [10:57 AM]:
nothing would improve, nuking them only creates ten more problems for us
San.Soucri [10:57 AM]:
Chavez should have been assassinated in New York last week
San.Soucri [10:57 AM]:
by a person posed as a muslim
Darian.Kallel [10:58 AM]:
yeah, people who help president bush stave off the economic crises he created should be shot
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
giving oil to the poor, dumb idiots,
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
let them die, that way they can't vote
Darian.Kallel [10:59 AM]:
survival of the fittest
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
oh but wait, if they're dead who will fight in iraq?
San.Soucri [11:00 AM]:
survival of the fittest, this would mean liberal and commies would die
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
nobody?!
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
perfect!
Darian.Kallel [11:00 AM]:
good, we need a new breed of liberals,
San.Soucri [11:00 AM]:
we don't need liberals
Darian.Kallel [11:01 AM]:
govt officials would be the last to die
San.Soucri [11:01 AM]:
gov't officials should be the first to die
Darian.Kallel [11:01 AM]:
they'd steal from everyone else until the bitter end
San.Soucri [11:01 AM]:
we need people of america to stop thinking about the well being of others, learn to take care of their country first, and be proud of their nation
Darian.Kallel [11:02 AM]:
yeah, take care of us, pull the damn troops out of iraq
Darian.Kallel [11:02 AM]:
cut off the head of the snakes that attack us and warn the other snakes to stay out of our grass
San.Soucri [11:03 AM]:
i am talking about the working poor of america, the homeless children, the uneducated...not trying to free tibet, save a muslim somewhere, save a whale
Darian.Kallel [11:03 AM]:
who gives a shit about tibet?
San.Soucri [11:03 AM]:
have you read to new intel report...their is no head to this enemy
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
sad man... do you believe the new intel report?
San.Soucri [11:04 AM]:
there are independent cells working without direct leadership in bin ladens groups
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
is this the same intel that put a stop to the bombings on 9/11?
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
oh no! Thats right! They didn't stop the bombings on 9/11
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
they didnt' do shit,
Darian.Kallel [11:04 AM]:
cuz they dont' know shit
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
really who is training these cells?
San.Soucri [11:05 AM]:
the intellegence community knew everything that was going on..pre- 9/11
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
oh wait it was Bin Laden's camps for years...
San.Soucri [11:05 AM]:
whether the elected officials in gov't did anything about it was another
Darian.Kallel [11:05 AM]:
so the intelligence community needs to be put to death for not doing their job
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
that's the dumbest intelligence community I've ever heard of,
San.Soucri [11:06 AM]:
you need to stop blaming people who are not elected to their post...elected politicians are to blame for this mess
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
"watch my purse while I go to the bathroom" - old lady
Darian.Kallel [11:06 AM]:
"I've got it! No problem!" - Intelligence community
Darian.Kallel [11:07 AM]:
"where's my purse?!" - old lady returning from bathroom
Darian.Kallel [11:07 AM]:
"I watched this character with a turban steal it!" - intelligence community
San.Soucri [11:07 AM]:
The CIA cannot act without presidential/congressional approval
Darian.Kallel [11:08 AM]:
Oh wow! Glad we have those guys!
San.Soucri [11:08 AM]:
why did the CIA kill Bin Laden in the 90's? President Clinton
Darian.Kallel [11:08 AM]:
oh good so it's not just them, it's the whole damn system that's fucked!
San.Soucri [11:08 AM]:
Why didn't they stop Bin Ladin in 01, Bush
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
and Bush marched into Iraq
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
Brilliant!
San.Soucri [11:09 AM]:
the intelliegence community is not fucked, it is the politicans running the government
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
oh wait, shit that's not where Bin Laden is...
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
so if the intelligence community is not fucked and they are doing their job.
Darian.Kallel [11:09 AM]:
then where is bin laden
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
??
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
dead
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
in Tora Bora
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
show me his bones
San.Soucri [11:10 AM]:
where Hitler?
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
oh but we claimed he was dead,
Darian.Kallel [11:10 AM]:
if we're so sure about bin laden, then claim it
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
publicly
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
This sitaution is bigger than Bin Laden
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
he does not matter anymore, he is not in charge
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
oh shit thats a gamble, if he comes up with another video tape, then Bush is completely incompetent
San.Soucri [11:11 AM]:
the video tape...prove the dates
Darian.Kallel [11:11 AM]:
and if he is dead, then leave IRAQ!
San.Soucri [11:12 AM]:
can't
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
why not?
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
who gives a shit,
Darian.Kallel [11:12 AM]:
not our country!
Competition, Go Ahead Run... But Sooner or Later
Unions are a huge problem in America today. These are the same people who are too busy drinking a beer with one hand and beating their pregnant wife with the other to be bothered by actually producing something of value. And when we give their jobs to someone who will happily do more work for less money, they whine and moan about immigrants taking their jobs and ruining the country… Yes, that’s it!! I want to live in a country full of huts occupied by worthless white trash.
I’m not in either party because I’m not a politician, I’m an economist. Only economists don’t get elected by the ignorant masses because the economists occupy their time doing what’s best in the long run, not what looks good in the short run while leaving the refuse of debt, war, faltering foreign relations, rapidly declining unsustainable natural resources, and rising illiteracy rates for some future generation to clean up.
So open the borders! Increase the global competition and leave the unions to be cared for by those who truly need them, the immigrants!
Illegal immigrants!? Hah! Unless you’re a Native American you shouldn’t be allowed to utter the phrase and if you aren’t Native American, then you should know that immigration is what made the USA so damn powerful.
Calling free open competition ‘amnesty’ sounds like a teenage girl calling her friend a slut just to protect her own inadequacies.
”Who is John Galt?” ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)
I’m not in either party because I’m not a politician, I’m an economist. Only economists don’t get elected by the ignorant masses because the economists occupy their time doing what’s best in the long run, not what looks good in the short run while leaving the refuse of debt, war, faltering foreign relations, rapidly declining unsustainable natural resources, and rising illiteracy rates for some future generation to clean up.
So open the borders! Increase the global competition and leave the unions to be cared for by those who truly need them, the immigrants!
Illegal immigrants!? Hah! Unless you’re a Native American you shouldn’t be allowed to utter the phrase and if you aren’t Native American, then you should know that immigration is what made the USA so damn powerful.
Calling free open competition ‘amnesty’ sounds like a teenage girl calling her friend a slut just to protect her own inadequacies.
”Who is John Galt?” ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)
Tuesday, January 16, 2007
The Evils of Religion
Anything that can drive behavior of the ignorant masses is dangerous and destructive in the end and the man who claims those things in order to do good, will never actually do good, just less bad. If you truly stick to your principles, no one will ever appreciate you or give you fame and fortune, everything you get you would have to rightfully earn.
Believing in a thing like God is only for those who had to create something ‘better’ than them to believe in because they lacked the strength and or courage to stand up and become that thing themselves.
Then when you study enough and become enlightened enough to realize that no God exists, you have two choices, either deny this truth to yourself and grab the reigns controlling the ignorant masses, or you can share this unpopular truth and be criticized by those still in the dark, fought against and blamed for all the good you do.
Let’s start a religion, write books about what ‘God’ told us to share with the ‘little people’ … we’ll have more money, be more powerful, and have more followers than our wildest dreams could yield.
Then when we near death we can realize that we’ve been distracted and accomplished absolutely nothing with our time on earth and we might as well have been retards staring at a piece of glitter ‘stuck’ in the carpet, smiling gaily for hours without moving.
Believing in a thing like God is only for those who had to create something ‘better’ than them to believe in because they lacked the strength and or courage to stand up and become that thing themselves.
Then when you study enough and become enlightened enough to realize that no God exists, you have two choices, either deny this truth to yourself and grab the reigns controlling the ignorant masses, or you can share this unpopular truth and be criticized by those still in the dark, fought against and blamed for all the good you do.
Let’s start a religion, write books about what ‘God’ told us to share with the ‘little people’ … we’ll have more money, be more powerful, and have more followers than our wildest dreams could yield.
Then when we near death we can realize that we’ve been distracted and accomplished absolutely nothing with our time on earth and we might as well have been retards staring at a piece of glitter ‘stuck’ in the carpet, smiling gaily for hours without moving.
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